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by Preston on 21 July 2008 - 03:07

Here is a prime example of a CEO who performs extremely poorly (criminal negligence?) and yet has extremely inflated salary and perks.  His bloated salary could have paid for thousands of new positions for folks who need the work and could have actually managed the business effectively instead of trashing it and directing funds to cronies, etc.  This is the norm for major corporations in the USA now where the CEOs are paid exhorbitantly to have their own "golden parachute" so they will then be willing to trash the corp jobs when they are directed to do so by their overlords.  

Oh by the way, all the big boys have been at the "bohemian grove" this last week for their annual gathering.  Now what kinds of things do you think they do there in such a place where no women are ever allowed, ever under any circumstances and it has been reported in respected newspapers in the past that porn stars were flown in to service the celebrants.  Google beohemian grove and see for yourself what the ruling elites are into each year.  I promise you that you will be shocked and outraged.  And this evidence is iron clad, verified and validated.  

The article below is from money magazine as was thoroughly researched and validated.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/18/news/newsmakers/Freddiemac_CEO.ap/index.htm?section=money_latest


RatPackKing

by RatPackKing on 21 July 2008 - 03:07

Uglyboy,

 It is people like you that always cite the latest body count or report the latest setback -- as if military success could only be achieved if there was no loss of life or limb and wars could only be considered won if every single individual battle was won. No matter how good the news from Iraq has been over the past year, some form of that response would immediately appear in your posts. That was not surprising considering liberals like Harry Reid declared the surge a failure and the war lost before all the troops were even in place. Nothing seemed to come more quickly or naturally to liberals than to declare the defeat and failure of the Bush administration and the United States military.

Imagine my surprise then, when I posted a story about the latest milestone of progress in Iraq and heard little more than crickets chirping. Quite a few hours after posting, a couple of liberals like yourself pipe up to comment about the time frame in which troops should leave Iraq. And that was about it. What is interesting lately though is no more outright claims of failure and defeat from the left. They seemed to have picked up on the cueset by Barack Obama when he recently scrubbed the Iraq page of his website. Many liberals are finally past arguing over whether or not the surge has been successful and are now reduced to either pretending they never doubted that it would work or arguing over when the troops should come home. If that is not a sign that progress is being made in Iraq, I don't know what is.

 

RPK


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 21 July 2008 - 04:07

I'll take two order's of steaming crap with the corn and nut's please...LOL

And a partridge in a pear tree.

Thank's Don,  but as for the rest of you,  do you read back over what you have written?

No wonder we're in such deep doo doo, you guy's are just rambling on about what??   I can't tell who's ahead.

Have you noticed how long this page take's to load?   Your carbon emission's have exceded EPA limit's and now we will lose all our carbon credit's.  

Hell I'm just bored and I thought I'd do some reading.  

Now I think I'll have to find a new past time.

Turn off the light's when you leave.

 


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 21 July 2008 - 04:07

Oh, say! ....   does that star-spangled ........  banner yet wave  ????


by Rainhaus on 21 July 2008 - 05:07

Since this is a free speech forum and yes I have read everything that everyone expressed.Do any of you know how low our nations blood supply is sufferring?Do you each know your blood type?Is your blood acceptable to be donated?Do you donate?Take time and answer.If you don't then you are not an american.


by Almodovar on 21 July 2008 - 11:07

Who said this topic had died, Brent – and then with the Don himself here too!
Got to love that Obama post, RatPack – nicely done.

Strange isn’t, keepthefaith – you’d think promoting a strong currency required rocket science! Just living within one’s means is a good start. Deficits are fine for spurring a sluggish economy, if not for getting the unemployed back into work, but otherwise mere bad news. Encouraging general economic health together with a reasonable balance of trade and payments, and maintaining good control over money supply, credit included, is all it basically takes. As opposed to chalking up astronomical amounts of debt and printing money as if there’s no tomorrow! Nor do accounting practices that make Enron off-balance sheet stunts look reasonable, with actual budget deficits double or treble reported figures, and trillions of debt shuffled into all sorts of nooks. Benchmark interest rates at well below inflation rate reflects serious imbalance, and leaves little room to maneuver.  Neither does the squeeze on credit combined with the lack in consumer confidence suggest improvement any time soon. The weak dollar should see exports booming: instead we’ve had six consecutive months of weaker employment figures.

I previously cited the connection between US dollar’s worth and oil, and your freerepublic link gave good reading. Simple fact is, any wholesale switch to euros would have catastrophic results for the US, both currency and economy-wise. In my opinion, the moment erstwhile US friend Saddam started dabbling thus, his fate was pretty well sealed! I’d hate to see Iran with nuclear weapons, but apart from this, is it any wonder it’s now become a target for villification! (Particularly since it represents the most logical exit for Caspian oil.) Moreover, if the US maintains control over Iraq for long enough, and over the Shi-ites in particular, say at least for another three years or more, pumping oil galore, it may yet turn a profit! (How much of it to the benefit of the taxpayer is another question!) I agree that Iraq saga isn’t anywhere near finished.

Joining the chorus, Obama today stated that Afghanistan required more troops. We never do learn, do we, including how conventional warfare incurs serious drawbacks against drawn-out guerrilla attrition. The Russians, employing on average over 100 000 men, with over 600 000 seeing actual service (as variously backed by anything up to over three hundred thousand Afghan troops), 15 000 dead and a huge number permanently disabled from one cause or another, found in Afghanistan, to US Government’s and CIA glee, their own Vietnam; leaving in the process over a million Afghan dead, and with a third of pre-war population turned into refugees, fleeing to Pakistan and elsewhere. A tailor-made object lesson for what may yet again transpire, if not in Iraq.

Afghanistan could be more important to America's oil supply than Saudi Arabia or Iraq. The Caspian Sea sits on as much as 200 billion barrels of oil (about 16 percent of Earth’s total reserves – the Saudi’s own 250 billion barrels).  UNOCAL tried to construct a pipeline from the Caspian Sea. It was to run from Turkmenistan via Afghanistan to the Port of Karachi.  However in the end the Taliban balked.

Post following adds a bit of background – the CIA/Taliban involvement and by certain others seemed interesting.
 


by Almodovar on 21 July 2008 - 12:07

Unocal was one of the key players in the CentGas consortium, an attempt to build the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline to run from the Caspian area, through Afghanistan and probably Pakistan, to the Indian Ocean. One of the consultants to Unocal at that time was Zalmay Khalilzad, former US ambassador to Afghanistan then to Iraq and currently to the UN. In 1996 Unocal opened an office in Kandahar, Afghanistan, while the Taliban were in the process of taking control of the country. Unocal rented a house in central Kandahar directly across the street from one of Osama bin Laden's new compounds. The Taliban and Unocal were later in negotiations in Texas to discuss arrangements for the pipeline from Turkmenistan to Pakistan in 1997 and a deal was struck but later failed. The failure was believed to be because the deal was going to be struck with Bridas, an Argentinian company.

In the 1980s CIA chief Bill Casey had revived the agency's practice of gaining intelligence from traveling businessmen. Marty Miller, one of Unocal's top executives, conducted negotiations in several Central Asian countries from 1995, and voluntarily provided information gained on these trips to the CIA's Houston station.

Robert Oakley - ex-US ambassador to Pakistan, now Unocal's ad hoc advisory board - advised Miller to reach the Taliban by working through Pakistan's government. He also suggested that Unocal hire Thomas Gouttiere, an Afghan specialist at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, to develop a job-training program in Kandahar that would teach Pashtuns the technical skills needed to build a pipeline. Unocal agreed to pay $900,000 via the University of Nebraska to set up a Unocal training facility on a fifty-six acre site in Kandahar, not far from bin Laden's compounds.
Unocal seems to have had a deeper role. Intelligence "whistleblower" Julie Sirrs claimed that anti-Taliban leader Ahmad Shah Massoud told her he had "proof that Unocal had provided money that helped the Taliban take Kabul. And French journalist Richard Labeviere said, referring to the later 1990s, "The CIA and Unocal's security forces ... provided military weapons and instructors to several Taliban militias.

In March 2005, the Chinese National Offshore Oil Corporation CNOOC) tried to acquire Unocal with a bid that valued Unocal at between $16 billion and $18 billion. Following a vote in the United States House of Representatives, the bid was referred to President George W. Bush, on the grounds that its implications for national security needed to be reviewed. CNOOC withdrew its bid. Soon after, Unocal merged with Chevron.

Muhammad Abdulrahman: “It now seems as though America is using the pretext of WTC attacks in order to fulfill its economic aims.”


 


by Uglydog on 21 July 2008 - 15:07

Rat..Theres No military Solution to Iraq, An Occupation & Insurgency that we created, for Oil FOR Israel. These are General Petreus' & other Generals' Words, you fool.

Somehow, you talk as though you are more qualified than the Generals commanding that operation??  Youre no more than a  Neo CON Cheerleader for an unconstitutional war & a War Pimp.  DAMN YOU

 

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The new commander of U.S. troops in Iraq has warned that military force alone will not be enough to quell the country's violent insurgency.

"There is No military solution to a problem like that in Iraq, to the insurgency of Iraq," Petraeus told a news conference, adding that political negotiations were crucial to forging any lasting peace."

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General Richard Sanchez, The Commander of the US-led occupation forces in Iraq from June 2003 to June 2004, now says Washington is waging an unwinnable war in Iraq:

“I think if we do the right things politically and economically with the right Iraqi leadership we could still salvage at least a stalemate, if you will — not a stalemate but at least stave off defeat”, Sanchez told the May 25 San Antonio Express-News in his first media interview since retiring last year.

Sanchez is the highest-ranking former US officer involved in the war to publicly say that Washington cannot defeat Iraq’s anti-occupation guerrillas. Describing the US military’s situation in Iraq as bleak, Sanchez said: “We brought this on ourselves to some extent because of the abysmal performance in the early stages [of the occupation].” Within months of the March 2003 invasion, the US-led occupation authority dissolved the Iraqi army, banned the Baath Party and sacked 1.5 million of its members from their government jobs — actions seen by many commentators as providing a social base for the Iraqi resistance.

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Former Central Command General Abizaid:

'Senator McCain, I met with every divisional commander, General Casey, the core commander, General Dempsey, we all talked together. And I said, in your professional opinion, if we were to bring in more American Troops now, does it add considerably to our ability to achieve success in Iraq?

And they all said No. And the reason is because we want the Iraqis to do more. It is easy for the Iraqis to rely upon to us do this work. I believe that more American forces prevent the Iraqis from doing more, from taking more responsibility for their own future.'


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 21 July 2008 - 19:07

Yo FUBAR, how about that Treaty of Lisbon ?  Irish pissin ya off, aye ?  LMAO


by Uglydog on 21 July 2008 - 20:07

The Irish are hip to the NWO,  Globablism, Zionists & Occupation. Theyve been fighting Against it for over 800 years.

Over 300,000 Irish were sold AS SLAVES in the English Colonies.  Proclamation of 1625.

Love live the Irish, up the RA!






 


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