Vet said feeding raw is the worst thing ever for dog - Page 5

What does feeding an unbalanced raw diet have to do with whether or not an appropriately designed and fed raw diet is healthy for dogs? If I fed a large breed puppy a brand of dog food that had completely incorrect calcium/phosphorus ratios and the puppy had skeletal issues as a result, could I then argue that kibble feeding is not to be recommended to the average pet owner?

I would feed raw or home-cooked over kibble any day, as I can be slightly more certain that it doesn't have melamine, or other nasties.

ggturner I was refering to you. I was saying that you had an expert saying raw is not good & the raw people have not shown anything.


Mollyandjack
You could argue it but with out facts to back up your claim how could anybody listen to you? Thats all i'm saying, show me the proof raw is better. Don't just tell me about it, show it. Thanks.

The point is that many people do not feed a balanced raw diet and the health of their dog suffers, so Dr. Lauten does not encourage the raw diet.  She knows that too many of them won't do their research.  She understands that there are some who will feed an appropriate raw diet, but too many won't.  When you work with the general public, you have to be careful.

Remione, maybe you should get your facts straight.  I never said Dr. Lauten said "raw is not good".  I wrote in my earlier post: 

She is NOT pro raw (I know because I emailed her asking her opinion on it.  She is not totally against it, but does not promote it.).


I also just posted why she does not go around promoting a raw diet.  There is a difference between being against something vs. not promoting it. 
 

True, but stating that an expert in animal nutrition does not promote the raw diet because they're afraid the public is too dumb to do it properly is not the same as stating that an expert in animal nutrition thinks that the raw diet is unbalanced because of its components and should not be fed.

Edit: Lol - just saw your next post, sorry ggturner! :)

remione1 -

"...the raw people have not shown anything"

- because we've gotten tired of copy and pasting the same ole links when people can just search the messageboard? I'm guessing here. There have been many many many discussions on this board and others, and as I'm working on my masters paper I'm too lazy to go look for them.

Sorry I worded it wrong. She did NOT say it was bad.

I also said in this topic a couple post back the raw people IN THIS TOPIC have not shown. It's crazy how people pick & choose what they want to quote & what they skip over. 

Again let me say I do not think raw is bad. I do not think kibble is bad. I have no opinion on either one. I just was asking to see the facts from both side on why theres is better. Thanks.

remoine1,
I have done my research and made a decision on what works for me.  I was in the Pet Industry for over 20 years, I have fed dry dog food to my dogs until 5 years ago when I switched to raw.  I researched it and looked at what others were doing and how their dogs compared to kibble fed dogs.  It was a no brainer for me.  I'd suggest that you research the "4D's" and find out what goes into dry dog food.  Then research the extrusion process utilized to cook dry food and see what nutrients are left after processing. 

I suppose that their are people who only feed their families processed food and McDonalds for all of their meals.  I will not eat at McDonalds and raw is working very well for me.  It is not for everyone and is definitely more work than scooping food out of a bag but I will never go back to dry. 

There are plenty of books you can find on raw feeding as well as raw feeding groups on yahoo.  If you would like me to dig up the research I did from 5 years ago I will.  Feed what ever works for you and your dogs and I'll do the same for mine. 

Jim

Jim
Not everyone who feed kibble to there dogs eats processed food, I do not never have Nor have i ever in 70 years eaten a Mc Donalds food, Or Hamburger Hot dog of any kind, The only frozen food i buy at times when fresh is not available is Frozen Brocali nothing else.
Today i again sourced the price of feeding Raw over here the cheapest way i could do it
For 1 Months food for 2 dogs would cost me  260 dollars a month, when i get my Pup eventually 390 dollars a month, way beyond my income plus i have to order 450lb at any one time which is impossible i do not have the freezers to hold it or the space to hold the freezers or the cash to buy it in such amounts,
So it is easy for some of you Guys who can get the Raw products so easy and at a reasonable price, We are not all in that postition
Steve1

Interesting how, the more popular dog ownership has become, the more permutations & combinations of dog food we have seen land on the market. +1 to those on here who state, feed what works. We can feed the best stuff to our K9's, and at the end of the day, DNA's going to take precedence. I've seen some dogs hit a ripe old age on a steady diet of Ol' Roy (I say...lucky them!), AND...I've also seen some good dogs die prematurely and become worm food on Hill's Science Diet. It is what it is. I think people trivialize dog food way to much. Let's face it....dogs are scavengers.

No different with humans. Some can get away with a daily consumption of poptarts, chips & beer...and die of old age. Others can run marathons, drink their 8 glasses of water/day, and be poppin' heart & cholesterol pills. Again...it is what it is. The best defence, is to get oneself educated on K9 nutrition, remember Energy In should = Energy Out, change feeding plans frequently and monitor dog's stool.

Steve,
That is certainly cost prohibitive, at that cost it would not be an option for me either.  It costs me about $75 a month to feed my male and about $60 to feed my female.  That is just a little more than feeding dry for me each month.  McDonalds was used as an anology to compare fresh food to processed.