I urge all SHOWLINE owners to take alook at this video! - Page 6

Missbeeb, sorry i just couldn't help myself,i really thought or hoped you would miss it. OOPS!!!!! liz

Liz, it gave me a good laugh first thing

Well now i don't feel just as bad about breaking the pact first!!!!!! liz

Artistian, I am from the U.K,  I have no personal axe to grind with you, except for the fact that you are misinformed. You havent disrespected me personaly, you are just sadly misinformed when it comes to the facts. You say you are having training with a top judge? Well........................I rest my case, we are all aware of how corrupt the dog showing fraternity is in your country. You intend to show your dog at a seiger show in Pakistan? Then its no surprise you are "training with a top judge" a little foresight on your part I would think. Your dogs hips have been graded? Under which system did you submit them? May we see the plates?

I may be ranting a little now, but people like you make my blood simmer.  You read a few books, look at a few very poor videos, and imagine you know it all and can improve the breed?   Go look at the way dogs are treated in your country, then stand up and throw stones at Zamp and his owners.  Please, please, bring your dog to Crufts,  come see what some of Zamps progeny look like. Meantime, you say you intend to show at a "seiger show" in Pakistan.  Good luck, and i hope your dog does well. Just curious, but what is the criteria for entering a seiger show in your country?

Every now and again, there comes along a dog that is the complete package,  confirmation, looks and temperament, and very clever breeders. They deserve your respect, and you would do well to look at how they got where they are today. Not through idle boasting, and indiscriminate breeding, or having their egos stroked. Learn from them, and dream about owning  dog like Zamp. Again, i say, your dog is very ordinary, doesnt fill the eye, and has no outstanding virtues, and if that upsets you, then Im sorry, but dont post here every month asking for a critique? And before you say that i am being unkind to you or your dog, imagine how Zamps owners would feel reading the garbage you are writing about their dog?  They dont need to justify their dogs achievements on a public forum, whereas you feel the need to. By the way, exactly what has your dog achieved?

I doubt you would recognise a quality dog if it bit you on the arse, and you can only dream about owning one like Zamp.

 wonderful Zamp... yes, he looks wonderful... but  ZW 90... 

If I am not right - please correct it

aristianM

You ought to look at some of your past user comments. In them, by what you say, you appear to like the Showline type. You even give praise about your bitch's sire and claim to love Ghandi Von Arlett. If you don't like showlines, then why do you have a bitch from Showlines. Make your mind up.  You go on about "over angulation" but then give praise to dogs who are well angulated, just like Zamp. If you don't like Showlines, get yourself a Workingline, or better still, leave the GSD alone and change breed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Senta, can you elaborate? If need be in German,  for me, please?

Wieso ist ein ZW von 90 schlecht? Der Mittelwert ist 100, daher ist alles darunter wuenschenswert (oder habe ich das alles falsch verstanden?). Meine Hunde haben alle einen ZW von 70 bis 94, und ich habe damit ueberhaupt kein Problem.  Dementsprechend suche ich mir die Zuchtpartner aus und bin immer gut damit gefahren.

Und wieso "bad ED"? Zamp hat ED normal, nicht "bad". Solltest Du von einer schlechten ED-Vererbung reden, nun.... Es gehoeren immer zwei dazu!

Sportliche Gruesse, Chris

P.S. Edited because you edited your post and corrected yourself - Du hast also Deine Aussage ueber "bad ED" zurueckgenommen. Warum? War das ein Fehler?

I dont care what you i think about my dog. She is beautiful and none of you can change that! Brady BEE i love me dog to death. There are a few Showlines that i like. Ghandi happens to be one of them. I think he is much better looking than Zamp. I declared in my previous posts that i will get a working lines gsd. Leave the GSD alone, for god's sake you leave it alone and stop in breeding it! Its because its because of some people like you that this breed is suffering from conformation problems that result from over line breeding and inbreeding, countless health issues, cow hocks etc! I dont like ZAMP Zacsum, so why would dream about owning him?

 to silbersee:

steht da etwas von "bad"? Ich meinte, ich hätte es korrigiert....

ZW 90 ist nicht gerade erstrebenswert... und wenn ein Hund 79 hat sollte man m.E. nicht unbedingt einen schlechteren Vererber darauf nehmen - sehe ich das falsch? Man möchte doch verbessern... 

Probleme hatte ich bisher nicht ----- bitte nicht mißverstehen: ich habe davon gesprochen, daß die Rüdensuche mit entspr. o.g. Merkmalen sehr schwer geworden ist.

Wenn Du eine Empfehlung hast s.o. g. Merkmale - gerne! Ich reise auch gerne weit dafür!

Letztlich geht es um das Video... und die Zucht aller Rassen ist umstritten. Es gibt nicht gerade oft wünschenswerte Ergebnisse.... und letztlich leiden die Tiere darunter, wie anschaulich dargestellt wird. Ich wollte nur sagen, daß es immer schwerer wird, gesund und verantwortungsvoll zu züchten - wenn man gewisse Ansprüche an die Gesundheit eines Hundes hat... und nicht immer nur die Äußerlichkeit ( die je nachdem auch noch modeabhängig ist ), Vermehrung und Geld im Sinn hat.

Nichts für ungut.

I am sure you do love your dog to death. Dont we all?? Whether Ghandi is, as you put it Better looking than Zamp, Doesnt really matter. That's personal preference, as it is for everyone. But please, dont blame me for the problems in the breed. I never have and never would  "inbreed" as you put it.  I am the third generation of my family to be involved with this wonderfull breed, and If you, and your very naive ideas are the next, then God help us.