Can someone tell me what type this GSD is? - Page 3

Stacy - bad example I made,

My point was it's well possible that a puppy could hold both traits from Sire and Dam.

Exactly, Stacy. Good analogy. Not everybody comes out like a 50/50 mix; some puppies might be one way and some the other way. Some would be half-and-half.

Royal,  you can never just "take away the weaknesses"; they will always and forever be in the line somewhere. What is so hot about American lines that you want to preserve?

I think I must not understand your goal.


One dog can't have a good croup and a bad croup, a good front and a bad front, good feet and bad feet; it also can't have biddability and no biddability, aggression and no aggression, ball drive and no ball drive. It MIGHT have a moderately bad croup, a moderately good front, somewhat bad feet, a little biddability, slight aggression, and fair ball drive. But why would you want that dog? 

I' am not breeding nobody here, and I said on my early post - I will stay away from American Line, I' am simply learning about breeding what is bad and what is good :)

Well Royal, if you can get two people to agree on what's bad and what's good, more power to ya! 

Royal 1:

If you consider the term "quality" in a product, such as a bred pup, to be the likelihood that all the pups will conform to a set of characteristics per expectations, then you will see why GSD breeders tend to breed dogs with similar characteristics, except for those they are trying to enhance or suppress.

For the sake of argument, if you were to breed an ASL to WGSL, you might possibly get some (a minority) with the best or worst qualities of the breeding (think a bell curve distribution) and the majority with a mixed bag of said qualities.  If a breeder did this, he'd keep the pups that best held the desired traits and either cull the rest, or at least those deemed undesirable and sell the balance at an age in which he'd sell them spayed/neutered and probably at a discount.  Given the cost of a high quality stud, it becomes hard to justify unless you are trying to accomplish a very clear and speciffic breeding goal and finances are not an important variable.  Hypothetically, those "desirable qualities puppies" would not be dogs put up for sale, but used to further develop a breeding program by selectively breeding to enhance or supress breed traits towards the breeding program's goal.

charlie319:

Thanks for the wonderful information!

Question: Let say if a Sire has one lazy ear and the Dam has very strong and firm both of her ears. This is simply my example if a GSD has a weakness in physical appearance that how will it effect the new born pups.

-I' am simply learning how to select a stud male-......

 A WGSL x AmSL dog has earned ScH titles, I believe.  


Kim
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Royal:

I'm not a genetics expert, but if the male is fully grown and the "lazy ear" is not the product of an accident/trauma, I'd avoid breeding him.  I will tell you that most good kennels are built around the females because you can always pay for a stud.  Temperament is the key.

For selection of the stud, read up on the issue of temperament.  Find yourself at least a V-rated male, or the best GSD that you can find in your vicinity that meets the requirements of what you seek in such a stud and fork over some serious money for the stud fee.

I have a Ilbo Vom Holtkamper See grand daugter (on dam's side) who is of Frei von der Gugge bloodline.  If I breed her, it won't be until she's at least 2.5 years of age, or even at 3.  In the meantime, she and my male are both undergoing SchH training and I may show the female locally just to enhance the prospects of her pups being bought into homes that will keep them for life.