Karma is a Bitch.... - Page 4

 is all very well but profit should cease to be the main
raison d'etre of our existence
 Here is the same sentence without French:
 is all very well but profit should cease to be the main
reason for existence  of our existence....
What? 
Anyway even if I guess what you are saying you must understand that reason for creations of these organizations was profit. Thus if you take profit away they will cease  to exist. That is even most non profit organizations are here for the profit. 
Prager Hans

This particular issue is really, really very simple, and it would be a choice - simply because you are not PREVENTING anyone from still breeding their dog. Do you see the distinction Hans?  People can still have the choice over whether to breed their dog. That isn't being taken away from them.   But they know that before they CHOOSE to breed the dog if they can't fulfil certain health requirements, they can't register with that body. Their CHOICE.  The whole point is that Kennel Clubs have leverage in this respect since the public know little about good breeders, bad breeders, puppy mills, pets shops. It's no good saying they should take the responsibility and do their research...it aint gonna happen. We've tried educating the public in the UK, it just doesn't work.  What does for some strange reason seem to work is that they do recognise and believe that KC's are a hallmark or a standard of good breeding. If they have KC papers the dog must be good. That is leverage that can be used for the future health of any breed. Do we not want to use whatever means possible to better the health of the breed?  

BTW Hans, who decided that we have all the animal cruelty legislation we need - you?  Did you confer with anyone else about that or did you just decide that in some dictatorial fashion yourself? Who decided it wasn't working? Do you know what would be happening if we didn't have it? What would happen if we expanded it? Perhaps the legislation just isn't good enough, and is improvements/enhancements to current legislation is blocked by people with your mindset.

As long as this country has Free enterprise puppy mills and backyard breeders will never truly go away no matter how regulated and legislated things are. It's just futile to try. Educating the public is a nice try, but it's pointless, well most of the time that is. People are going to buy whatever they want, even if they did receive the education that is needed to make the right decisions on their purchase. They will still buy that puppymill puppy that they see in the window of a Pet store. People are still going to continue to support puppy mills and backyard breeders; it's one of the main reasons why these companies/kennels still exist... they still have high demands for their "products". As long as people buy from them the longer they still be in business.

Brittany, do you actually believe the garbage you write? "Education is pointless... blah blah blah? "

Of course breeders want to make money. Top flight or BYB. Where do you come up with such banality? They couldn't afford to breed otherwise. Only the wealthy would be afforded such a "hobby" with the uber- "Brittany", lofty goal to "better the breed". A respectable breeder has an obligation to breed to a standard, period. Whether they figure out how to make money doing it or not, who cares. Judging the buyer for what the seller has control of is, twisted.

Prager, I am glad you corrected, "cease" vs. "seize". Had me going there for a few seconds!

We need more government control to tell us how to live our lives and how to treat others. Socialism at it finest.  Injustice will always happen and you can not fix it with laws,  but you can be a good example and try to change the world one person at a time.

Good post Judy P.....accurate and realistic!

Abby Normal: "Do we not want to use whatever means possible to better the health of the breed?"   
 WHAT EVER MEANS POSSIBLE?!  What about chopping  hands? Chopping hands would work. Abuse a dog - Chop . 
Your attitude is  truly scary. 

Abby Normal:
BTW Hans, who decided that we have all the animal cruelty legislation we need - you? 

Prager Hans:
Who decide that we need more animal cruelty legislation? You?  Abby Normal? 
There are laws forbidding cruelty against animals in every jurisdiction. What else do you need? I'd say start enforcing  them. - You say; make more of them. What makes more sense?
Prager Hans

No Hans, I didnt say make more, read what I wrote - I posed questions to which in fact there are no accurate answers. You actually stated categorically we had enough. 
Chopping hands? My attitude is scary????