WUSV/GSDL BRITISH REGIONAL CHAMPION - Page 5

Basically... it's very important that our "new system" appeals to as many people / breeders as possible.  If the provision of the title "Champion" helps... great!  The German system isn't perfect either but it is way better than our KC so, why shouldn't we pick the best bits from both to suit the majority?  Makes complete sense to me!

Just to clarify... the adult classes are (and hopefully always will be) open to animals without a Koerung; if SchH is not your thing, you are still welcome at these shows,

Finally, our Regional shows are superb... if they grow and spread (as I'm sure they will) I really do believe that many of us will give up entering at KC shows.  Lord knows the Gen Ch shows are bloody grim!  The Regionals are relaxed, happy affairs; you can bring your baby pups, you can double handle, and you know that the adult classes are full of animals that have passed various health checks.  Not perfect yet... but definitely heading that way... bliss! 

 

From my point of view I have a health tested and identified dog, who attends obedience classes and will do some agility when old enough, but there is no point me attending one of your regional shows as I bought a dog to handle myself, although admittedly not very fit (me that is) but I know full well my type of dog and my type of handling would never get anywhere at one of your shows.  I like to show at local open shows and the occasional KC champ show but won't waste my money when I know he will not be considered if there are dogs being handled (and double handled) by handlers with their owners calling them from outside the ring.  I do get a bit miffed when you criticise the KC shows but are happy to accept judging appointments at them and still expect to allow double handling.  I have no problem with you all doing it at your 'own' shows but don't do it at 'mine'!

Oh well... little bit of a cop out me thinks... a correct type of dog will always be considered.  There is very little double handling at Gen Ch shows, most simply don't bother, it's not so necessary for a tiny ring in any case.

I don't think I actually know anyone showing at "your" shows Dopple... I'm guessing you mean Gen Open shows?

The entire point is... we have a choice and yes, I understand it's a problem if you want to handle your own dog and can't do the fast gaiting but please remember it's mostly fast walking with the odd fast gaiting lap.

I have never judged... nor do I have any desire to do so. 

I get miffed when I see all sorts of crapola put on dogs coats, I get miffed when treats are used and left in the ring for the next exhibitors, I get miffed when I see our Breed strung up under their ears, the list goes on; I would like to think that everyone would feel welcome at our shows... so, give it a go Dopple, it would be interesting to hear what you think afterwards.  I think you'd enjoy yourself.

A message to Mo & others

While I applaud what you are trying to do please be under no illustions ! ALL shows are beauty shows if you do not have working qulifications

You have a valid point No Fear, however, at each of the Regionals (aside from the Puppy / Junior) there is a "working class" for animals with a Koerung.

So, a great start has been made and I for one will not be put off... good SchH training is NOT easy to access for everyone, indeed it's not something everyone wants to do.  I am no longer seeking to train my dog in SchH as there is nothing anywhere near me... minimum 3 hour drive for any decent training... it's a non starter for me.  I would not send my dog off for training... personal choice!

I take my hat off to all those making it happen and I would happily go out of my way to try to include those with reservations.  There will always be those that can't see the wood for the trees but the fact is.... this is the biggest (and best) thing to happen in our Breed in our Country in my lifetime!  WTG

 

GSDL/WUSV Events (shows) are VASTLY different from KC shows

The KEY POINTS are in the ENTRY requirements.

GSDL/WUSV Events (shows)
1) Identification - tattoo and/or microchip
2) acceptable hip & elbow scores/grades
3) breed survey
4) koerung
5) working qualifications
6) ALL dogs over 12 months will be Measured


Kennel Club Shows
None of the above

I agree that everyone should be free to attend and take part in both or either type of show according to preference. They are certainly very different, but each to their own. I would certainly hope that these days it would be quite unusual (?) for a dog without health tests to be entered in a KC show, just because competitors and breeders have become more enlightened in respect of health testing. Certainly those on here know if they enter a KC show their dog is fully health tested, and I can only imagine the furore that would follow if a dog without were to win. Am I being naive ?

Choice, for all to exhibit, attend, feel included, and most of all to enjoy whatever side of the fence they are on.

Sad to say, you are being naive.

Abby i have to agree with David on this one.Yes yu are being naive.Most gsds on the german n middle of the road side are health tested .Some on the alsatian side are now testing but not all.There are gsd champions that are health tested,but have scores which one would not breed from that are winning major awards even now.Also there are gsds on the other side winning that are not health tested.I know of one breeder on the german side that approached the KC n asked wot would happen if a hip/elbow scored dog with a high score but was sound,won a CC /RCC,would it have this award taken away.KC answer was NO,if it was classed as sound in movement by the judge n inspecting vet.So we rest our case here,yu can have a dog that appears sound,may be epileptic,but coz.it aint visible to the judge it can/prob.has become a champion.Carole Spelman.